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		<title>Zhukuram at 17:37, 14 May 2018</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;So to be upfront: I am no fan of the Faction System.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Apostate Kicks&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In Kush, the policy of the current Elders is to kick any &amp;quot;apostate&amp;quot; level player.  At the current state of the game  apostate status is gained only by teaching a tech to another faction.  More than 12 &amp;quot;alts&amp;quot; have been kicked so far and the prevailing view is that these 12 are only &amp;quot;Technology Spys&amp;quot; created solely for the purpose of obtaining Kush based techs and passing them to non-Kush faction players.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is unknown what status an &amp;quot;former apostate&amp;quot; has with their potential new faction (2 possible: HY and MW) if they bring in new techs. Is this a major &amp;quot;coup&amp;quot; for the player or if it has no status value in the system&lt;br /&gt;
* It would be entirely within the PVP/RVR concept to have a &amp;quot;spy&amp;quot; become the &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; for gaining valuable information from the other team. &lt;br /&gt;
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The method of 'finding' these offending players is to scan and data mine the &amp;quot;regional reporter&amp;quot; tab to watch for promotions and demotions.  Then a quick /info on the demoted players name to check their account status and if active then they are summarily kicked.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Promotion and Opt-Out&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Assisting in any activity that gives the message &amp;quot;you have helped your faction&amp;quot; will add n-points to an invisible bucket.  Once you hit the &amp;quot;promotion threshold&amp;quot; you will be promoted even if you are not &amp;quot;participating&amp;quot; in the faction game.   Donating directly to a technology will add points. Passing tests or initiations gives faction points.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only way to get &amp;quot;un promoted&amp;quot; is to not do anything that grants faction points until the next &amp;quot;faction report card&amp;quot; is published and you will be marked as &amp;quot;demoted&amp;quot; provided you are already on the threshold for status change.  &lt;br /&gt;
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You can opt-out of the promotion cycle at the Faction Great Hall.  Your status will remain whatever it is at the time you opt-out and the points bucket will be frozen in the current status.  No activities that grant faction points will be applied.&lt;br /&gt;
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Updated May  14 2018&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Zhukuram</name></author>
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