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+Changes as of April 3, 2020
   changed: incense is now more powerful, between +/- 3 and 20 in stat warping
   you can now wear incense as a perfume
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   In addition, a scent (undiscovered) and a feeling (discovered to be Smelly, which is one of the starting Feelings) have been added.  This was mentioned by Malard when a player stated that they applied simple perfume, and a pig was not affected.
-'''Incense''' is created in a [[Scent Lab]], with the [[Perfuming 2 ]] tech, out of
+'''Incense''' is created in a [[Scent Lab]], with the [[Perfuming 2]] tech, out of
 *20 cactus sap
 *4 charcoal

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-| 958-959 || 10
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-  Changes as of 04/03/2020
+  Changes as of April 03, 2020
   changed: incense is now more powerful, between +/- 3 and 20 in stat warping
   you can now wear incense as a perfume
   pigs are attracted to odours and wheat
- In addition, a scent and a feeling have been added.  This was mentioned by Malard when a player stated that they applied simple perfume, and a pig was not affected.
+'''Incense''' is created in a [[Scent Lab]], with the [[Perfuming 2 ]] tech, out of
 *20 cactus sap
 *4 charcoal
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 With an [[Incense Prong]], the player can add ingredients to change the characteristics of the incense.
-Quality can both rise and fall when any ingredients are added to the incense.  After a great deal of testing and research, we will be able to intentionally alter the quality.  The magnitude of the stat changed should be determined by the quality number.  Lower quality incense has a small effect on the stats and higher quality numbers will change the stats by a larger amount.  This tale, incense with a quality of 98 has been burned, and it still changed the player's stats by one point.
+Quality can both rise and fall when any ingredients are added to the incense.  After a great deal of testing and research, we will be able to reliably alter the quality.  The magnitude of the stat changed should be determined by the quality number.  Lower quality incense has a small effect on the stats and higher quality numbers will change the stats by a larger amount.  This tale, incense with a quality of 98 has been burned, and it still changed the player's stats by one point.
-Fragrance should be altered by the herbs added.  The exact purpose of fragrance is not known, but fragrance is an incense characteristic which can be required by some worship tests.
+Fragrance is altered by the herbs added, or new to T9, Mushrooms.  The exact purpose of fragrance is not known, but fragrance is an incense characteristic which can be required by some worship tests.
-Feeling should be affected by adding the petals of any flower.  The exact purpose of incense feelings is not known, but it is an incense characteristic which can be required by some worship tests.
+Feeling is affected by adding the petals of any flower.  The exact purpose of incense feelings is not known, but it is an incense characteristic which can be required by some worship tests.
 The exact stats changed can be altered by adding resin from any tree.  One stat will be increased by a certain amount, while another will be decreased by the same amount.  These stat changes are in addition to any stat changes from foods eaten, aqueduct bonuses, banner bonuses, etc. Incense bonuses stack with all other known stat bonuses in the game.
-When the Incense has the required characteristics, it can be taken from the Scent Lab, each batch produces 20 Incense at a time.
+When the Incense has the desired characteristics, it can be taken from the Scent Lab. At this time, it can be named. All Incense names have the quality prepended as "Quality x" before the name chosen. Incense sorts extremely oddly in storage, so it is helpful to give it as descriptive of a name as possible. Each batch produces 20 Incense at a time.
 == How to use it ==
-Incense can be burned inside a compound in an [[Incense Burner]], or outdoors in a [[Windproof Incense Burner]]. The length of time for which it will burn is determined partly by the type of Burner used, but mostly by the quality of the Incense. You will get a message in main when you light it telling you how long it will last.  For a standard incense burner (both indoors and outdoors) incense lasts for Quality * 4 in seconds, and twice as long in a long-lasting incense burner.
+Incense can be burned inside a compound in an [[Incense Burner]], or outdoors in a [[Windproof Incense Burner]]. The length of time for which it will burn is determined partly by the type of Burner used, but mostly by the quality of the Incense. You will get a message in main when you light it telling you how long it will last.  For a standard incense burner (both indoors and outdoors) incense lasts for Quality * 4 in seconds, and twice as long in a long-burning incense burner.
 Once the incense is lit, anybody within 30 (possibly more, still testing) coordinates may "catch a heady whiff" of it, which affects two stats (one positively, one negatively), and may be useful for certain tests.  The game checks if you should get a whiff once every 60 teppyseconds, so if the incense burns for less than that, you may not catch a whiff at all.  The magnitude of the stat change depends on the quality of the incense:
-Incense may now be rubbed on like a perfume.
+*This chart needs to be updated, as of April 2020.  Changes now range from 3 to 20. Given the increments discovered, it seems likely there are more steps than listed in the chart below.
 {| border="1"
 ! Quality !! Stat Change
 |-
-| 0 || 0
+| 0 || 0 (burns for less than 0 seconds, impossible to catch a whiff)
 |-
-| 1-499 || 1
+| 1-499 || 3
 |-
-| 500-749 || 2
+| 500-749 || 6
 |-
-| 750-873 || 3
+| 750-873 || 8
 |-
-| 875-936+ || 4
+| 875-936+ || 9
 |-
-| 958-959 || 5 (unconfirmed)
+| 958-959 || 10
 |-
 | 968-983
-| 6 (unconfirmed)
+| 11? (presumed from previous two)
 |-
 | 984-1000
-| 7 (unconfirmed)
+| 12? (presumed from previous steps)
 |}
 == How it works ==
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 Incense has 4 properties that are affected by a random factor at the start, and by the additives included during the batch. These properties are:
-* '''Scent.''' Scent is affected by the [[Herbs]] added to the batch. Observed scents this telling: Citrus, Clove, Clover, Flowers, Frankincense, Honey, Musk, Opium, Oriental Spices, Patchouli, Pine, Sandalwood
+* '''Scent.''' Scent is affected by the [[Herbs]] or [[Mushrooms]] added to the batch. Observed scents this telling: Citrus, Clove, Clover, Flowers, Frankincense, Honey, Musk, Opium, Oriental Spices, Patchouli, Pine, Sandalwood
 * '''Feeling.''' The feeling is affected by the [[Rose of Ra]] Petals added to the batch. Observed feelings this telling: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Invigorating, Melancholious, Mischievous, Relaxed, Serene, Smelly, Sorrowful, Suspicious, Troubled, Vengeful (Probably have more)
 * '''Affected Stats.''' Every batch of Incense affects two different stats: one positively, one negatively. These are affected by the [[Resin]]s added to the batch. The positive stat is obvious enough, but the negative stat may not be immediately recognizable if you're new to Incense. Here's how they map:
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 The above information is based on what has been observed this tale, with some copying from T7 wiki for data that appears unchanged.  Statements that include "should" are based from our experiences in previous tales and have not yet been verified for T8.
-Practical Incensemaking Considerations:
+Practical Incense-making Considerations:
-As working in the Feelings plane requires flower petals, which are difficult and costly to obtain as you get one petal per sacrificed flower, which starting Feeling you obtain will have a large influence on your maximum Quality. As we cannot readily distinguish Feelings plane starts, it is possible two or more starts share the same Feeling, and one of those will likely be higher quality than the other.  Update!  We can now collect single petals from a flower once a day without killing it.  Harvesting petals gives five petals, but should kill the flower as well.
+Given the ability to readily work in all 3 planes, extremely high-quality incense is practical for the first time.
-Nevertheless, the most promising (highest-Q) starts seen in experiments are Giddy, Guilty, Joyous, and Vengeful - more TBD. The worst starts are: TBD. Tale 9 is a good tale for incense starts - I have managed 927 on a favorable stat pair without having a clue what I am doing, so +5 may be possible with research. The doubling of resins this tale is also a big help - while finding end points is something I have trouble with, we are likely to have one or more resins that align with a desirable end point. -Somebob
+Tale 9 is a good tale for incense starts - I have managed 927 on a favorable stat pair without having a clue what I am doing, and 958+ is possible under the same conditions, with use of the now-renewable flower petals. -Somebob
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 * '''Scent.''' Scent is affected by the [[Herbs]] added to the batch. Observed scents this telling: Citrus, Clove, Clover, Flowers, Frankincense, Honey, Musk, Opium, Oriental Spices, Patchouli, Pine, Sandalwood
-* '''Feeling.''' The feeling is affected by the [[Rose of Ra]] Petals added to the batch. Observed feelings this telling (T8 data) : Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Serene, Sorrowful, Vengeful (Probably have more)
+* '''Feeling.''' The feeling is affected by the [[Rose of Ra]] Petals added to the batch. Observed feelings this telling: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Invigorating, Melancholious, Mischievous, Relaxed, Serene, Smelly, Sorrowful, Suspicious, Troubled, Vengeful (Probably have more)
 * '''Affected Stats.''' Every batch of Incense affects two different stats: one positively, one negatively. These are affected by the [[Resin]]s added to the batch. The positive stat is obvious enough, but the negative stat may not be immediately recognizable if you're new to Incense. Here's how they map:
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 Practical Incensemaking Considerations:
-As working in the Feelings plane requires flower petals, which are difficult and costly to obtain as you get one petal per sacrificed flower, which starting Feeling you obtain will have a large influence on your maximum Quality. As we cannot readily distinguish Feelings plane starts, it is possible two or more starts share the same Feeling, and one of those will likely be higher quality than the other.
+As working in the Feelings plane requires flower petals, which are difficult and costly to obtain as you get one petal per sacrificed flower, which starting Feeling you obtain will have a large influence on your maximum Quality. As we cannot readily distinguish Feelings plane starts, it is possible two or more starts share the same Feeling, and one of those will likely be higher quality than the other.  Update!  We can now collect single petals from a flower once a day without killing it.  Harvesting petals gives five petals, but should kill the flower as well.
-Nevertheless, the most promising (highest-Q) starts seen in experiments are Giddy, Guilty, Joyous, and Veneful - more TBD. The worst starts are: TBD. Tale 9 is a good tale for incense starts - I have managed 927 on a favorable stat pair without having a clue what I am doing, so +5 may be possible with research. The doubling of resins this tale is also a big help - while finding end points is something I have trouble with, we are likely to have one or more resins that align with a desirable end point. -Somebob
+Nevertheless, the most promising (highest-Q) starts seen in experiments are Giddy, Guilty, Joyous, and Vengeful - more TBD. The worst starts are: TBD. Tale 9 is a good tale for incense starts - I have managed 927 on a favorable stat pair without having a clue what I am doing, so +5 may be possible with research. The doubling of resins this tale is also a big help - while finding end points is something I have trouble with, we are likely to have one or more resins that align with a desirable end point. -Somebob
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		+	Note: The information below is outdated.

		+	Changes as of 04/03/2020
		+	changed: incense is now more powerful, between +/- 3 and 20 in stat warping
		+	you can now wear incense as a perfume
		+	pigs are attracted to odours and wheat
		+
		+	In addition, a scent and a feeling have been added. This was mentioned by Malard when a player stated that they applied simple perfume, and a pig was not affected.

	'''Incense''' is created in a [[Scent Lab]], with the Aromatics tech, out of		'''Incense''' is created in a [[Scent Lab]], with the Aromatics tech, out of