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| − | == | + | == What is a Vigil, really? == |
A Vigil is, in essence, a large scavenger hunt. Clicking on the sacrificial bonfire gives you a list of items you must scavenge and the time limit for each item. The Vigil will continue until the participants fail to turn in an item in time. Vigils look complicated, but are great fun, especially as the hour grows late and people desperately struggle to find rare items to continue their Vigil. Vigil participants have been known to disassemble and salvage valuable buildings to keep it running long after they have achieved a passing score. | A Vigil is, in essence, a large scavenger hunt. Clicking on the sacrificial bonfire gives you a list of items you must scavenge and the time limit for each item. The Vigil will continue until the participants fail to turn in an item in time. Vigils look complicated, but are great fun, especially as the hour grows late and people desperately struggle to find rare items to continue their Vigil. Vigil participants have been known to disassemble and salvage valuable buildings to keep it running long after they have achieved a passing score. | ||
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One suggested method of preparation is to gather the following... | One suggested method of preparation is to gather the following... | ||
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A solid recommendation would be to review the Vigil preparation lists provided by prominent Worship-themed guilds. | A solid recommendation would be to review the Vigil preparation lists provided by prominent Worship-themed guilds. | ||
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* Build your chests, stash your goods. Make everything viewable to the public and stashable by the public. | * Build your chests, stash your goods. Make everything viewable to the public and stashable by the public. | ||
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* When a new participant arrives, there are a number of ways of engaging them. An up-front donation works, as does delaying their spot in line for one round, to see how they work. Unfortunately once your fire is public it is not really possible to enforce anything. People can sacrifice out of turn if they want to, and it is undetectable. For this reason it is best not to go -too- public with your vigil. I trusted pretty much everyone in Egypt until my most recent Vigil. In my experience, ten smart people, admins included in that number, can keep a Vigil going almost to 200. If the need is dire, tell everyone to move back from the fire unless making a sacrifice. This offers some hope of at least shaming/outing a lurking sac-stealer | * When a new participant arrives, there are a number of ways of engaging them. An up-front donation works, as does delaying their spot in line for one round, to see how they work. Unfortunately once your fire is public it is not really possible to enforce anything. People can sacrifice out of turn if they want to, and it is undetectable. For this reason it is best not to go -too- public with your vigil. I trusted pretty much everyone in Egypt until my most recent Vigil. In my experience, ten smart people, admins included in that number, can keep a Vigil going almost to 200. If the need is dire, tell everyone to move back from the fire unless making a sacrifice. This offers some hope of at least shaming/outing a lurking sac-stealer | ||
* Basically everyone who is in line should be working on someone's donation at all times. If there is a complete lull, Papyrus, flaxing, fishing, and digging are a never-ending source of amusement, as well as future relief. | * Basically everyone who is in line should be working on someone's donation at all times. If there is a complete lull, Papyrus, flaxing, fishing, and digging are a never-ending source of amusement, as well as future relief. | ||
| − | * As Bortoas points out, it starts slow. Only the admins will be needed for perhaps the first | + | * As Bortoas points out, it starts slow. Only the admins will be needed for perhaps the first 3–5 hours. Do not burn travel time during this period, and do not spend your stores. It will really peak after about 12, so the best time to start a vigil is in the middle of the night. |
''Additional Input - Myremi'' | ''Additional Input - Myremi'' | ||
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* Be flexible in case you have to make changes to the system. | * Be flexible in case you have to make changes to the system. | ||
| − | == | + | == Public Vigils == |
Not all vigils are as Regimented as above. Many vigils instead use the regional chat channel where the vigil is being held. A caller will announce the items to be sacrificed, and an individual can claim those items, as follows: | Not all vigils are as Regimented as above. Many vigils instead use the regional chat channel where the vigil is being held. A caller will announce the items to be sacrificed, and an individual can claim those items, as follows: | ||
| − | * A caller announces an item, such as "283 rotten flax", usually while announcing a category (i.e. "The following items in 1 hour..." | + | * A caller announces an item, such as "283 rotten flax", usually while announcing a category (i.e. "The following items in 1 hour...") |
* Player then types into whatever channel the Vigil is taking part in: "Claim rotten flax" | * Player then types into whatever channel the Vigil is taking part in: "Claim rotten flax" | ||
* Player is then responsible for ensuring those items are sacrificed before the timer runs out | * Player is then responsible for ensuring those items are sacrificed before the timer runs out | ||
| − | == | + | == Notes == |
A sacrifice will be listed as (in order of time): | A sacrifice will be listed as (in order of time): | ||
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'''Known Sacrifice Materials''' | '''Known Sacrifice Materials''' | ||
| − | * My guess is that Vigils request resources based on some in-game metric of how available they are, together with a small random factor. This would fit Teppy's usual idea of whether something is possible. If there are 2000 medium stones currently in Egypt then surely those conducting the vigil can find 10 of them... If the theory is correct we should see this reflected in the popularity of certain sacrifices over the coming weeks. For example sacrifices of Baskets should rise as more people make them for use in harvesting grass. -- Tialaramex | + | * My guess is that Vigils request resources based on some in-game metric of how available they are, together with a small random factor. This would fit Teppy's usual idea of whether something is possible. If there are 2000 medium stones currently in Egypt then surely those conducting the vigil can find 10 of them... If the theory is correct we should see this reflected in the popularity of certain sacrifices over the coming weeks. For example, sacrifices of Baskets should rise as more people make them for use in harvesting grass. -- Tialaramex |
* I wonder if the "availability" is less of how many there are in Egypt at any one time, but rather if the tech is currently available at all. I.e. There was a time when we couldn't create alloys, so they would not be asked by the Gods in a Vigil. As they can now be created, irrespective of how much alloy exists in the world, they will be asked for in a Vigil. Actually, alloys (or one of their products, like gears or scythes) might be a good thing to use to check the theory as I don't believe there are many around. Or candles? They have little use beyond Worship tests and tuition, so likely there are few "available for use" in Vigils. -- Mathir | * I wonder if the "availability" is less of how many there are in Egypt at any one time, but rather if the tech is currently available at all. I.e. There was a time when we couldn't create alloys, so they would not be asked by the Gods in a Vigil. As they can now be created, irrespective of how much alloy exists in the world, they will be asked for in a Vigil. Actually, alloys (or one of their products, like gears or scythes) might be a good thing to use to check the theory as I don't believe there are many around. Or candles? They have little use beyond Worship tests and tuition, so likely there are few "available for use" in Vigils. -- Mathir | ||
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Conduct a Vigil at a Sacrificial Bonfire. Visions will come to those around the bonfire, illuminating the required offerings. Scoring is based on the length of the Vigil, and your participation.
Overview
The Test of the Vigil is the first test in the discipline of Worship.
Conduct a Vigil at a Sacrificial Bonfire. Visions will come to those around the bonfire, illuminating the required offerings. Scoring is based on the length of the Vigil, and your participation.
Caution: The vigil starts off extremely slowly and only calls for a sacrifice every 15 teppy minutes.
Passing the Principle
- Firebricks can be done in a True Kiln
- You only need to make a sacrifice to pass. Doing so before the other items listed displays the message "Making a Sacrifice allowed you to skip some steps in Principles of The Vigil - smart move!
Scoring
When a Vigil completes, the points for it are distributed as follows: Each player gets points equal to the number of their own sacrifices multiplied by the number of sacrifices made by other people at this Vigil. So if somebody did a Vigil all on their own, they would receive 0 points for it.
An example with 20 total sacrifices with 3 participants, if A, B and C made sacrifices.. A=10, B=8, C=2.. points would be A=100, B=96, C=36.
Points accumulate over time, so if you participate in several Vigils, the points for each are added to your score.
Guilds
Guilds that help organise vigils:
- VIGILS - Asyut
Passing the Test
Every Monday, the 7 players with the highest points pass the test. Everyone who does not pass keeps their score and can continue accumulating points for later weeks.
Test Pass History
What is a Vigil, really?
A Vigil is, in essence, a large scavenger hunt. Clicking on the sacrificial bonfire gives you a list of items you must scavenge and the time limit for each item. The Vigil will continue until the participants fail to turn in an item in time. Vigils look complicated, but are great fun, especially as the hour grows late and people desperately struggle to find rare items to continue their Vigil. Vigil participants have been known to disassemble and salvage valuable buildings to keep it running long after they have achieved a passing score.
- Principle seekers: All you have to do is show up at the vigil and make one sac. That is it. Ignore all the other stuff on your tab. Just go to the vigil, take papy, slate, or anything else on this list: http://wiki.atitd.net/tale3/VigilSupplies in any reasonable quantity you can spare, and ask for a turn.
- If you want to do a Vigil in earnest - if you're trying to do a one-shot pass, for example - you NEED to do the following:
- Have a processing compound VERY close to the Vigil site. By, "processing," I mean, all of the buildings that turn one basic resource into another - Hackling Rakes, Distaffs, Rock Saws, and so on.
- Have large quantities of raw materials (such as cuttable stone, papyrus, flax, and so on) on-hand before you even start, so that you can either sacrifice the raws, or process and sacrifice the advanced materials, depending on what the Vigil calls for.
- Have one person dedicated to being the Caller, and announcing Sacrifices as they show up (and assigning them, if you're doing a firm turn-based system). Feel free to trade out callers as the Vigil goes on, but make sure you transition smoothly.
- Keep a log of what has been called, what has been sacrificed, and what's still open. While you can check the Vigil fire any time to see what Sacrifices are open, as the Vigil wears on, the list can become VERY long (up to 120 items, theoretically). This log will help future Vigils prepare more carefully.
- Keep an emergency stash of materials, in case someone can't make their sacrifice, so you can toss things in when an open Sacrifice gets down to the 5-minute mark.
- Note: it will ask for your seeds.
How to Prepare for a Vigil
One suggested method of preparation is to gather the following...
- Five or six chests on-site
- Facilities for flax, boards, and bricks on-site
- Seeds of every type, jugs, and water on-site
- An ample supply of medium and small gems of each type (5-10 each), as well as knowledge of nearby public mines
- An ample supply of the rarer metal ores. (20-30 each), as well as knowledge of nearby public mines
- An ample supply of Papyrus (~1000), and an established method for getting more
- Baskets
- An ample supply of each type of fish (~500 for common types, ~60 for rare types), and knowledge of nearby bands?
- Two or three administrators or 'callers' who are committed to staying in shifts until the thing ends
- An established, understood, and agreed-upon system for accepting new participants, and putting them in order
- A nearby compound with all advanced facilities (saws, rakes, etc.) kept current, to which you have access
- Access to cuttable gemstones, as well as a variety of specialty cuts
- Mandibular glue
- Wines of varying sugar content, age, and percentage of alcohol
- The best shovels and hatchets you can find
- Unless your participants are already in the same guild, strongly consider making (or coopting) a guild just for vigil communications. Becoming a team, even just for the vigil, is a BIG boost to both productivity and morale (not to mention being able to coordinate who sacrifices next).
All of the above amounts are very speculative, based on how long you intend to keep the fire going. Lots of everything is a very valid strategy.
A solid recommendation would be to review the Vigil preparation lists provided by prominent Worship-themed guilds.
What to do
- Build your chests, stash your goods. Make everything viewable to the public and stashable by the public.
- The admins should be in the same guild if possible. If so guild the chests. If not, understand clearly who the "lead" admin is at any given time. That person will stay at the fire, call out sacs, and hand out supplies to the person whose turn it is. When the lead changes due to fatigue or injury ;), the lead gives all the chests to the new lead.
- When a new participant arrives, there are a number of ways of engaging them. An up-front donation works, as does delaying their spot in line for one round, to see how they work. Unfortunately once your fire is public it is not really possible to enforce anything. People can sacrifice out of turn if they want to, and it is undetectable. For this reason it is best not to go -too- public with your vigil. I trusted pretty much everyone in Egypt until my most recent Vigil. In my experience, ten smart people, admins included in that number, can keep a Vigil going almost to 200. If the need is dire, tell everyone to move back from the fire unless making a sacrifice. This offers some hope of at least shaming/outing a lurking sac-stealer
- Basically everyone who is in line should be working on someone's donation at all times. If there is a complete lull, Papyrus, flaxing, fishing, and digging are a never-ending source of amusement, as well as future relief.
- As Bortoas points out, it starts slow. Only the admins will be needed for perhaps the first 3–5 hours. Do not burn travel time during this period, and do not spend your stores. It will really peak after about 12, so the best time to start a vigil is in the middle of the night.
Additional Input - Myremi
- I had 1 caller, 2 people to ferry stuff over, 1 person recording actual sacs on wiki (he tracks this according to what the caller says). Towards the end, the caller updated the wiki as well but to ferry the stuff, best to assign 2 people to do the job. Always have backup for each duty in case things go wrong.
- Caller announces the person to do the sac AND next person in the queue.
- Chests were placed quite a bit back from the altar so that traffic (refilling chests/removing stuff) is easier.
- If there are 11 people present at start of vigil, can start digging for stones, even without food. Need a lot of cuttable stones.
- Make sure everyone understands the system in place and get a few people to act as backups in case leader(s) disconnect from system.
- May be a good idea to have some experienced folks nearby in case you need help.
- Be flexible in case you have to make changes to the system.
Public Vigils
Not all vigils are as Regimented as above. Many vigils instead use the regional chat channel where the vigil is being held. A caller will announce the items to be sacrificed, and an individual can claim those items, as follows:
- A caller announces an item, such as "283 rotten flax", usually while announcing a category (i.e. "The following items in 1 hour...")
- Player then types into whatever channel the Vigil is taking part in: "Claim rotten flax"
- Player is then responsible for ensuring those items are sacrificed before the timer runs out
Notes
A sacrifice will be listed as (in order of time):
- Longer than One Hour...
- Within One Hour...
- Within Twenty Minutes...
- Within Five Minutes...
- Within ONE MINUTE...
The first sacrifice of the vigil can now be made for up to 2 hours. If you fail to make a sacrifice after its 1 MINUTE warning, the bonfire will disappear and the Vigil will end.
To calculate your score, take the total number of sacrifices made, subtract the number of sacrifices you made yourself (both numbers are shown to you every time you make a sacrifice), then multiply the result by the number of sacrifices made yourself. So, if there are 200 sacrifices made in total, and you did 50 of them, your score is (200 - 50) * 50 which is 7500. Or, in other words, your score is the number of sacrifices you made multiplied by the number of sacrifices everybody else made.
Known Sacrifice Materials
- My guess is that Vigils request resources based on some in-game metric of how available they are, together with a small random factor. This would fit Teppy's usual idea of whether something is possible. If there are 2000 medium stones currently in Egypt then surely those conducting the vigil can find 10 of them... If the theory is correct we should see this reflected in the popularity of certain sacrifices over the coming weeks. For example, sacrifices of Baskets should rise as more people make them for use in harvesting grass. -- Tialaramex
- I wonder if the "availability" is less of how many there are in Egypt at any one time, but rather if the tech is currently available at all. I.e. There was a time when we couldn't create alloys, so they would not be asked by the Gods in a Vigil. As they can now be created, irrespective of how much alloy exists in the world, they will be asked for in a Vigil. Actually, alloys (or one of their products, like gears or scythes) might be a good thing to use to check the theory as I don't believe there are many around. Or candles? They have little use beyond Worship tests and tuition, so likely there are few "available for use" in Vigils. -- Mathir
--From looking at the few examples of code that Teppy has released, I would be surprised if he bothered to do a count of available items. It is very likely based on technology and tests available. I thought there was a vigil that died out in T4 because it required lithium (or something) that there had not been a mine discovered for yet.
- Perhaps each vigil over X sacrifices adds 1 new item to the list of things that are available. Chicken meat started at a large one in meroe i think, and now vigils are asking for 6%+ wine. Both of these are much less common than alloys that aren't required at the moment. --FadenRa 16:28, 14 February 2009 (EST)
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