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Paint is used to provide color to various projects.
 
  
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'''Paint''' is used to provide color to various projects.
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== Sources ==
 
Created in a [[Pigment Laboratory]] using various quantities of ingredients. The 11 ingredients are:
 
Created in a [[Pigment Laboratory]] using various quantities of ingredients. The 11 ingredients are:
 
* [[Cabbage Juice]] - purple
 
* [[Cabbage Juice]] - purple
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* [[Dead Tongue Mushroom]]s - reddish
 
* [[Dead Tongue Mushroom]]s - reddish
 
* [[Toad Skin Mushroom]]s - dark green
 
* [[Toad Skin Mushroom]]s - dark green
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* [[Earth Light Mushroom]]s - light green
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* [[Falcon's Bait Mushroom]]s - light green
 
* [[Red Sand]] - bold red
 
* [[Red Sand]] - bold red
 
* [[Lead]] - blue grey
 
* [[Lead]] - blue grey
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== Uses ==
 
== Uses ==
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Paint is primarily used as a building material, and in research.
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*Paint is primarily used as a building material, and in research.
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*You can buy a Paint License in the [https://www.desert-nomad.com/Product/Details/25| Desert Nomad Store]. When using this it costs 75 paint to paint your warehouse.
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Paint License: Permission to paint one warehouse once. Supplied in packs of 5
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*You can use paint to add color to Shop shelves at the cost of 10 paint per shelf.
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*When a building or research requires paint of a non-specific colour (ie, Greenish, or Whiteish), then any paint colour with that non-specific colour in the name will be accepted. For example, Spring Green and Forest Green will both satisfy a requirement for Greenish paint.
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=== Specific Colours required ===
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'''[[Gazebo]]'''
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* 500 Deep Sky Blue Paint
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* 250 Dark Red Paint
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* 350 Forest Green Paint
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* 250 Slate Blue Paint
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* 25 Navajo White Paint
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* 350 Tomato Paint
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* 500 Violet Paint
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'''[[Pulse of the People]]'''
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* 150 Green Paint
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* 100 Blue Paint
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* 50 Purple Paint
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'''[[Tomb of the Immortal]]'''
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* 100 Gold Paint
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* 200 Maroon Paint
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* 50 Yellow Paint
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* 200 Sky Blue Paint
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* 50 Midnight Blue Paint
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'''[[Serpentarium]]'''
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* 20 Aquamarine Paint
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* 30 Indian Red Paint
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* 12 Light Blue Paint
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* 15 Dark Green Paint
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'''[[Test of the Library of Alexandria|Library]]'''
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* 1568 Green Paint
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* 1568 Yellow Paint
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'''[[Small House]]'''
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* 300 Ivory Paint
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'''[[Lesser Sphinx]]'''
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* 7673 Black Paint
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* 6529 Light Coral Paint
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* 5851 Pale Golden Rod Paint
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* 4523 Sea Green Paint
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* 3307 Violet Red Paint
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* 2129 Saddle Brown Paint
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'''[[Windsong Tower]]'''
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* 105 Blue Violet Paint
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* 105 Crimson Paint
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* 150 Dark Slate Grey Paint
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'''[[Raeli Mosaic]]'''
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* 250 Spring Green Paint
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* 150 Pale Violet Red Paint
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'''[[Hexaglyph Tablet]]'''
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* 100 Orange Paint
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'''[[Test of Alchemists Rune|Alchemist's Rune Tablet]]'''
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* 100 Orange Paint
  
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{{7ok}} Our ancestors could also use paint to color their compounds.  This is no longer possible in modern-day Egypt.
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'''[[Modern Sheep Farm]]'''
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* 50 White Paint
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'''[[Silkworm Farm]]'''
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* 20 Turquoise Paint
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* 20 Pale Turquoise Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix Growing Old]]'''
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* 125 Olive Drab Paint
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* 125 Sandy Brown Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix Being Born]]'''
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* 100 Sienna Paint
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* 100 Tan Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix In His Prime]]'''
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* 97 Indian Red Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix on the Hunt]]'''
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* 100 Dark Orange Paint
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* 100 Golden Rod Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix Parting Ways]]'''
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* 100 Dark Golden Rod Paint
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* 100 Olive Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix Taking Shelter]]'''
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* 100 Dark Grey Paint
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* 100 Dark Khaki Paint
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'''[[Phoenix Statue|Phoenix Twisting Fate]]'''
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* 120 Fire Brick Paint
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* 130 Pale Golden Rod Paint
  
 
==Research and Tuition==
 
==Research and Tuition==
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{{7ok}}
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* 50 Red Paint needed for [[Carpentry]] 3
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* 100 Burnt Sienna Paint needed for [[Carpentry]] 4
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* 100 Oxford Blue Paint needed for [[Carpentry]] 4
 
*''24,706 needed for [[Chromatic Touch]] research - see [[Chromatic Touch]] for colors''
 
*''24,706 needed for [[Chromatic Touch]] research - see [[Chromatic Touch]] for colors''
 
*''400 required for [[Herpeculture]] research - see [[Herpeculture]] for colors''
 
*''400 required for [[Herpeculture]] research - see [[Herpeculture]] for colors''
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== Ingredients and Mixing ==
 
== Ingredients and Mixing ==
 
There are eleven base ingredients, and each has a starting RGB value, listed below. Note: in earlier tellings, ores were used instead of metals. However, the RGB values are unchanged.<br>
 
There are eleven base ingredients, and each has a starting RGB value, listed below. Note: in earlier tellings, ores were used instead of metals. However, the RGB values are unchanged.<br>
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'''These values have not been verified in T8.'''
 
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{{7ok}}
 
  
 
{|  border="1" cellpadding="5"  
 
{|  border="1" cellpadding="5"  
 
! Ingredient!! Short !! Red !! Green !! Blue
 
! Ingredient!! Short !! Red !! Green !! Blue
 
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| Cabbage Juice  || cj || 128 || 64 || 144
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| Cabbage Juice  || CJ || 128 || 64 || 144
 
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| Carrots  || cr || 224 || 112 || 32
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| Carrots  || Cr || 224 || 112 || 32
 
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| Clay || cl || 128 || 96 || 32
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| Clay || Cl || 128 || 96 || 32
 
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| Copper || co || 64 || 192 || 192
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| Copper || Cu || 64 || 192 || 192
 
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|-
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| Dead Tongue || dt || 112 || 64 || 64
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| Dead Tongue || DT || 112 || 64 || 64
 
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|-
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| Earth Light || el || 128 || 240 || 224
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| Falcon's Bait || FB || 128 || 240 || 224
 
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| Iron || io || 96 || 48 || 32
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| Toad Skin || TS || 48 || 96 || 48
 
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|-
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| Lead || lo || 80 || 80 || 96
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| Iron || Fe || 96 || 48 || 32
 
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| Red Sand || rs || 144 || 16 || 24
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| Lead || Pb || 80 || 80 || 96
 
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| Silver Powder || si || 16 || 16 || 32
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| Red Sand || RS || 144 || 16 || 24
 
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| Toad Skin || ts || 48 || 96 || 48
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| Silver Powder || Ag || 16 || 16 || 32
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|-
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! Catalyst!! Short !! - !! - !! -
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| Lime || C:Li || - || - || -
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| Potash || C:Po || - || - || -
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|-
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| Saltpeter || C:Sa || - || - || -
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| Sulfur || C:Su || - || - || -
 
|}
 
|}
  
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== [[Paint/Known_Colors | List of Known Colors]] ==
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== [[Paint/Known Colors|List of Known Colors]] ==
  
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== Paint Reactions ==
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Here is the full table of possible reactions. This table seems to be specific to Tale 7. Every player will have the same Color Reaction according to the table below.  Though the amount (between -64 to +63) is avatar dependent. <br>
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Earthlight Mushrooms have not been tested yet.<br>
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If someone ele could verify the data is correct that would be great—Anien
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{|border="1" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="3" style="background-color:#FFDEAD"
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! !! CJ !! Cr !! Cl !! DT !! TS !! FB !! RS !! Pb !! Ag !! Fe !! Cu !! C:Su !! C:Po !! C:Li !! C:Sa
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! Cabbage Juice || --- || W ||  ||  ||  ||  || B || R ||  || G ||  || B || B || B ||
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! Carrots || W || --- ||  ||  || R ||  ||  ||  ||  || R || G ||  || W ||  ||
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! Clay ||  ||  || --- ||  || G || G || G ||  ||  ||  || W ||  ||  || W || G
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! Dead Tongue Mushrooms ||  ||  ||  || --- ||  || W || W ||  ||  || B ||  || G ||  || R ||
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! Toad Skin Mushrooms ||  || R || G ||  || --- || R ||  || W ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || R || G
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! Falcon's Bait Mushrooms ||  ||  || G || W || R || --- || G || R || B ||  || B ||  ||  ||  || W
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! Red Sand || B ||  || G || W ||  || G || --- || B ||  ||  || B || G || G || B || W
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! Lead || R ||  ||  ||  || W || R || B || --- || B || G || B || G || B ||  ||
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! Silver Powder ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || B ||  || B || --- || G || R || R ||  ||  || B
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! Iron || G || R ||  || B ||  ||  ||  || G || G || --- ||  ||  ||  || W ||
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! Copper ||  || G || W ||  ||  || B || B || B || R ||  || --- || B ||  ||  ||
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! Catalyst:  Sulfur || B ||  ||  || G ||  ||  || G || G || R ||  || B || --- || B ||  ||
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! Catalyst:  Potash || B || W ||  ||  ||  ||  || G || B ||  ||  ||  || B || --- ||  ||
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! Catalyst:  Lime || B ||  || W || R || R ||  || B ||  ||  || W ||  ||  ||  || --- || B
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! Catalyst:  Saltpeter ||  ||  || G ||  || G || W || W ||  || B ||  ||  ||  ||  || B || ---
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== Tools ==
 
== Tools ==
  
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{{7ok}} The following tools were available for T7, but may not have been tested for T8:
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The following tools were available for T7, but may not have been tested for T8:
  
 
* [https://bitbucket.org/Malkyne/desert-paint-lab Desert Paint Lab] paint ingredient reaction recorder and simulator.
 
* [https://bitbucket.org/Malkyne/desert-paint-lab Desert Paint Lab] paint ingredient reaction recorder and simulator.
 
  Note: GTK# for .net needs to be installed on Windows computers for Desert Paint Lab to work correctly. http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-win
 
  Note: GTK# for .net needs to be installed on Windows computers for Desert Paint Lab to work correctly. http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-win
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* [[File:PracticalPaint.Zip]] paint recipe generator from determined ingredient reactions.
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* https://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale7/File:PracticalPaint.Zip paint recipe generator from determined ingredient reactions.
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*'''Note:''' I gathered my reactions today. I had to update '''reactions.txt''' to use the '''Paint Reactions''' table on this page. I also added some notes/comments to help newbies (which I am today) figure out how you're suppose to test you reactions.
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**Alternatively try this zip of Practical Paint for T8. It might help, not sure.
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** This zip is 100% the same as the T7 link except updated reactions.txt : https://ceg.atitd.org/paint/PracticalPaintT8-Ceg.zip —Added to website since T8 wiki doesn't currently allow .zip to be uploaded. '''~Cegaiel - June 16, 2018'''
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* I replaced the above .zip to use Falcon Bait instead of Earth Light - '''Changelog: On July 8, 2018 Changed: Earth Light has been swapped for Falcon's Bait in making paint''' was updated in game. Some of the reactions has also changed. Files updated to reflect those changes. '''~Cegaiel - August 9, 2018'''
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**Created Video to show friend how to use '''Automato's paint_watch.lua''' to get your reactions for Practical Paint's '''reaction.txt''' file. Maybe it will help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLGduqM0Oc '''~Cegaiel - August 8, 2018'''
  
 
[[Category:Resources]]
 
[[Category:Resources]]
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Latest revision as of 07:27, 7 August 2019

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Paint
Paint
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Paint is used to provide color to various projects.

Sources

Created in a Pigment Laboratory using various quantities of ingredients. The 11 ingredients are:

The 4 catalysts are:

Uses

  • Paint is primarily used as a building material, and in research.
  • You can buy a Paint License in the Desert Nomad Store. When using this it costs 75 paint to paint your warehouse.
Paint License: Permission to paint one warehouse once. Supplied in packs of 5
  • You can use paint to add color to Shop shelves at the cost of 10 paint per shelf.
  • When a building or research requires paint of a non-specific colour (ie, Greenish, or Whiteish), then any paint colour with that non-specific colour in the name will be accepted. For example, Spring Green and Forest Green will both satisfy a requirement for Greenish paint.

Specific Colours required

Gazebo

  • 500 Deep Sky Blue Paint
  • 250 Dark Red Paint
  • 350 Forest Green Paint
  • 250 Slate Blue Paint
  • 25 Navajo White Paint
  • 350 Tomato Paint
  • 500 Violet Paint

Pulse of the People

  • 150 Green Paint
  • 100 Blue Paint
  • 50 Purple Paint

Tomb of the Immortal

  • 100 Gold Paint
  • 200 Maroon Paint
  • 50 Yellow Paint
  • 200 Sky Blue Paint
  • 50 Midnight Blue Paint

Serpentarium

  • 20 Aquamarine Paint
  • 30 Indian Red Paint
  • 12 Light Blue Paint
  • 15 Dark Green Paint

Library

  • 1568 Green Paint
  • 1568 Yellow Paint

Small House

  • 300 Ivory Paint

Lesser Sphinx

  • 7673 Black Paint
  • 6529 Light Coral Paint
  • 5851 Pale Golden Rod Paint
  • 4523 Sea Green Paint
  • 3307 Violet Red Paint
  • 2129 Saddle Brown Paint

Windsong Tower

  • 105 Blue Violet Paint
  • 105 Crimson Paint
  • 150 Dark Slate Grey Paint

Raeli Mosaic

  • 250 Spring Green Paint
  • 150 Pale Violet Red Paint

Hexaglyph Tablet

  • 100 Orange Paint

Alchemist's Rune Tablet

  • 100 Orange Paint

Modern Sheep Farm

  • 50 White Paint

Silkworm Farm

  • 20 Turquoise Paint
  • 20 Pale Turquoise Paint

Phoenix Growing Old

  • 125 Olive Drab Paint
  • 125 Sandy Brown Paint

Phoenix Being Born

  • 100 Sienna Paint
  • 100 Tan Paint

Phoenix In His Prime

  • 97 Indian Red Paint

Phoenix on the Hunt

  • 100 Dark Orange Paint
  • 100 Golden Rod Paint

Phoenix Parting Ways

  • 100 Dark Golden Rod Paint
  • 100 Olive Paint

Phoenix Taking Shelter

  • 100 Dark Grey Paint
  • 100 Dark Khaki Paint

Phoenix Twisting Fate

  • 120 Fire Brick Paint
  • 130 Pale Golden Rod Paint

Research and Tuition

Recipes

Recipes involving the catalysts are Character Specific and thus will be different from person to person.

Some Base ingredients react with each other, the magnitude and direction of this reaction is also character specific.

Reactionless Paint Recipes involving just the base ingredients that don't react with each other can be used by anyone.

Getting a reaction

Earlier Tale guides:

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Guides/Painting

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Guides/Paint/Paint_Reaction_Values

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Paint/Guide

Guide on how to use Automato (formerly Veggie Tales), Paint Watch, and Practical Paint: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/User:Ofalot/Painting_Guide

Illustrated guide to walk new players through paint theory and the complete process of getting reaction values and tweaking recipes using Veggie Tales, Paint Watch, and Practical Paint: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/User:GHawkins/PaintGuide

Ingredients and Mixing

There are eleven base ingredients, and each has a starting RGB value, listed below. Note: in earlier tellings, ores were used instead of metals. However, the RGB values are unchanged.

Ingredient Short Red Green Blue
Cabbage Juice CJ 128 64 144
Carrots Cr 224 112 32
Clay Cl 128 96 32
Copper Cu 64 192 192
Dead Tongue DT 112 64 64
Falcon's Bait FB 128 240 224
Toad Skin TS 48 96 48
Iron Fe 96 48 32
Lead Pb 80 80 96
Red Sand RS 144 16 24
Silver Powder Ag 16 16 32
Catalyst Short - - -
Lime C:Li - - -
Potash C:Po - - -
Saltpeter C:Sa - - -
Sulfur C:Su - - -

List of Known Colors

Paint Reactions

Here is the full table of possible reactions. This table seems to be specific to Tale 7. Every player will have the same Color Reaction according to the table below. Though the amount (between -64 to +63) is avatar dependent.
Earthlight Mushrooms have not been tested yet.
If someone ele could verify the data is correct that would be great—Anien

CJ Cr Cl DT TS FB RS Pb Ag Fe Cu C:Su C:Po C:Li C:Sa
Cabbage Juice --- W B R G B B B
Carrots W --- R R G W
Clay --- G G G W W G
Dead Tongue Mushrooms --- W W B G R
Toad Skin Mushrooms R G --- R W R G
Falcon's Bait Mushrooms G W R --- G R B B W
Red Sand B G W G --- B B G G B W
Lead R W R B --- B G B G B
Silver Powder B B --- G R R B
Iron G R B G G --- W
Copper G W B B B R --- B
Catalyst: Sulfur B G G G R B --- B
Catalyst: Potash B W G B B ---
Catalyst: Lime B W R R B W --- B
Catalyst: Saltpeter G G W W B B ---

Tools

The following tools were available for T7, but may not have been tested for T8: 

Note: GTK# for .net needs to be installed on Windows computers for Desert Paint Lab to work correctly. http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-win
  • Note: I gathered my reactions today. I had to update reactions.txt to use the Paint Reactions table on this page. I also added some notes/comments to help newbies (which I am today) figure out how you're suppose to test you reactions.
    • Alternatively try this zip of Practical Paint for T8. It might help, not sure.
    • This zip is 100% the same as the T7 link except updated reactions.txt : https://ceg.atitd.org/paint/PracticalPaintT8-Ceg.zip —Added to website since T8 wiki doesn't currently allow .zip to be uploaded. ~Cegaiel - June 16, 2018
  • I replaced the above .zip to use Falcon Bait instead of Earth Light - Changelog: On July 8, 2018 Changed: Earth Light has been swapped for Falcon's Bait in making paint was updated in game. Some of the reactions has also changed. Files updated to reflect those changes. ~Cegaiel - August 9, 2018
    • Created Video to show friend how to use Automato's paint_watch.lua to get your reactions for Practical Paint's reaction.txt file. Maybe it will help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLGduqM0Oc ~Cegaiel - August 8, 2018


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