Citrus Tree Data
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In the interest of gathering data for each citrus type, please add to the charts below as you grow trees of each type. Tale Seven, Lilyoptra managed to determine the "ideal values" for each citrus type. This ideal leads to each citrus type (numbers closest to the ideal values for that fruit) and citrus adjectives (the value of those four which is farthest from the ideal for that fruit). For more detailed information on her work, please refer to: https://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale7/Citrus_Tree_Data . I am going with her theory that "A tree is determined by taking the sum of the squares of the differences between the tree's attributes and each fruit's ideal attributes".
In language that I can understand a little easier:
One tree's actual values are put through this formula, comparing it to each tree type's ideal values. The result that gives the lowest number determines which tree species you've got.
(The difference between the actual color and the ideal color) squared
plus
(The difference between the actual sweetness and the ideal sweetness) squared
plus
(The difference between the actual size and the ideal size) squared
plus
(The difference between the actual length and the ideal length) squared
Of those four differences, the one which is farthest from ideal determines the fruit's adjective.
Buddha's Hand
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Greenish | 486 | 728 | 612 | 533 |
| Greenish | 325 | 650 | 642 | 621 |
| Greenish | 486 | 650 | 642 | 533 |
| Greenish | 515 | 650 | 642 | 533 |
| Long | 624 | 650 | 642 | 587 |
| Long | 676 | 650 | 642 | 587 |
| Reddish | 676 | 650 | 705 | 480 |
| Reddish | 676 | 650 | 705 | 534 |
| Reddish | 730 | 650 | 642 | 587 |
| Reddish | 740 | 650 | 642 | 587 |
| Small | 676 | 650 | 642 | 533 |
| Small | 676 | 650 | 642 | 533 |
| Small | 701 | 650 | 642 | 441 |
| Small | 710 | 650 | 642 | 437 |
| Small | 730 | 782 | 612 | 533 |
| Tangy | 676 | 509 | 642 | 533 |
| Tangy | 678 | 509 | 642 | 533 |
| Long | 754 | 650 | 733 | 621 |
Attempting to come to some conclusions about ideal values for Buddha's Hand. (Pardon me while I think out loud and ramble a bit!) It is one of the starter fruits, so we have more data to look at. There are two sets of "Small" fruits which help a lot. I checked with the grower, and yes, the numbers are accurate.
- Small: 710 color, 650 sweet, 642 size, 437 length <-- 642 size is very common so far, but this fruit is one where 642 size is the farthest from ideal, making the other three values closer to ideal.
- Small: 730 color, 782 sweet, 612 size, 533 length <-- This fruit has the highest sweetness we've seen, and very high color, but "small" is still the value farthest from its ideal
Range for Buddha's Hand ideal values:
- Color 515-676
- Sweet 509-(sweet)
- Size 642-(large)
- Length (flat)-587
Citron
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 325 | 320 | 594 | 621 |
| Large | 486 | 107 | 612 | 704 |
| Long | 325 | 182 | 408 | 621 |
| Long | 325 | 311 | 408 | 621 |
| Long | 486 | 182 | 408 | 522 |
| Reddish | 542 | 120 | 408 | 441 |
| Tangy | 486 | 120 | 408 | 441 |
Range for Citron ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Coralfruit
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Coralfruit ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Corian
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Corian ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Etrog
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 279 | 650 | 483 | 756 |
Range for Etrog ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-483
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Grapefruit
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Greenish | 676 | 171 | 612 | 507 |
| Greenish | 759 | 311 | 642 | 533 |
| Long | 760 | 107 | 612 | 704 |
| Greenish | 676 | 311 | 642 | 450 |
| Greenish | 687 | 311 | 612 | 507 |
| Greenish | 687 | 320 | 710 | 507 |
| Greenish | 687 | 320 | 756 | 568 |
| Greenish | 695 | 311 | 612 | 507 |
| Greenish | 730 | 320 | 756 | 568 |
Range for Grapefruit ideal values:
- Color 759-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-704
Iyokan
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Iyokan ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Kumquat
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Small | 515 | 320 | 642 | 533 |
| Long | 383 | 331 | 751 | 704 |
| Reddish | 635 | 331 | 751 | 533 |
| Small | 486 | 311 | 642 | 533 |
| Tangy | 399 | 311 | 751 | 533 |
| Small | 325 | 320 | 642 | 621 |
| Small | 515 | 320 | 642 | 533 |
| Long | 383 | 311 | 865 | 621 |
Range for Kumquat ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-635
- Sweet 311-(Sweet)
- Size 642-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-621
Lemon
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 699 | 650 | 642 | 621 |
| Flat | 676 | 650 | 642 | 621 |
| Flat | 676 | 650 | 612 | 621 |
| Greenish | 279 | 509 | 612 | 756 |
| Greenish | 325 | 650 | 642 | 737 |
| Small | 701 | 396 | 394 | 756 |
| Sweet | 701 | 650 | 565 | 704 |
| Tangy | 486 | 311 | 612 | 698 |
| Tangy | 486 | 320 | 594 | 720 |
| Tangy | 486 | 311 | 642 | 704 |
| Tangy | 621 | 311 | 705 | 621 |
| Tangy | 621 | 311 | 705 | 621 |
| Tangy | 668 | 182 | 612 | 704 |
| Tangy | 676 | 320 | 612 | 622 |
| Tangy | 676 | 311 | 612 | 627 |
| Tangy | 676 | 311 | 642 | 756 |
| Tangy | 687 | 320 | 612 | 568 |
| Tangy | 687 | 320 | 756 | 632 |
| Tangy | 699 | 311 | 642 | 621 |
| Tangy | 699 | 311 | 612 | 621 |
| Reddish | 754 | 650 | 642 | 746 |
| Tangy | 699 | 522 | 612 | 746 |
| Tangy | 754 | 311 | 642 | 621 |
| Sweet | 699 | 650 | 612 | 746 |
| Tangy | 754 | 311 | 612 | 621 |
| Large | 754 | 650 | 792 | 746 |
| Large | 754 | 650 | 757 | 746 |
| Large | 754 | 650 | 753 | 746 |
| Reddish | 754 | 650 | 642 | 855 |
| Flat | 719 | 650 | 642 | 642 |
| Flat | 754 | 647 | 642 | 621 |
| Large | 754 | 650 | 792 | 855 |
| Large | 754 | 650 | 721 | 746 |
| Long | 754 | 650 | 642 | 926 |
| Large | 754 | 735 | 792 | 746 |
| Sweet | 754 | 745 | 792 | 855 |
| Sweet | 754 | 745 | 792 | 746 |
| Reddish | 754 | 650 | 642 | 804 |
| Large | 754 | 668 | 792 | 855 |
| Large | 754 | 735 | 792 | 855 |
| Sweet | 754 | 735 | 754 | 855 |
| Large | 754 | 655 | 792 | 746 |
| Sweet | 686 | 745 | 792 | 822 |
| Sweet | 754 | 745 | 754 | 822 |
| Sweet | 754 | 766 | 792 | 822 |
| Large | 706 | 735 | 900 | 822 |
| Large | 754 | 798 | 900 | 822 |
| Large | 754 | 695 | 792 | 822 |
| Large | 754 | 735 | 792 | 822 |
Range for Lemon Ideal Values
- Color: 325-754
- Sweet: 522-650
- Size: 394-721
- Length: 642-926
Lenat
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Long | 676 | 320 | 612 | 507 |
| Long | 676 | 407 | 542 | 507 |
| Long | 653 | 311 | 612 | 507 |
| Long | 676 | 311 | 642 | 441 |
Range for Lenat ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-441
Lime
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 325 | 650 | 394 | 533 |
Range for Lime ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Mandarin
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Mandarin ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Orange
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 486 | 514 | 408 | 756 |
Range for Orange ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-408
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Oroblanco
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tangy | 676 | 182 | 757 | 841 |
| Tangy | 730 | 320 | 756 | 721 |
| Flat | 696 | 320 | 756 | 632 |
| Flat | 774 | 320 | 756 | 632 |
| Flat | 687 | 320 | 772 | 632 |
| Greenish | 754 | 503 | 792 | 746 |
| Greenish | 754 | 409 | 754 | 746 |
| Greenish | 754 | 503 | 792 | 814 |
| Greenish | 754 | 503 | 792 | 822 |
| Large | 754 | 503 | 900 | 855 |
| Sweet | 754 | 735 | 900 | 855 |
| Greenish | 716 | 503 | 900 | 855 |
| Sweet | 760 | 735 | 900 | 822 |
| Sweet | 754 | 735 | 900 | 822 |
Range for Oroblanco ideal values:
- Color 754-(Reddish)
- Sweet 320-735
- Size (Small)-900
- Length 632-(Long)
Pummelo
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Pummelo ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Rangpur
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 754 | 843 | 900 | 822 |
Range for Rangpur ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-900
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Shangjuan
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Shangjuan ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Sudachi
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 399 | 331 | 394 | 533 |
| Large | 486 | 292 | 594 | 621 |
| Large | 616 | 311 | 542 | 507 |
| Large | 687 | 311 | 542 | 507 |
| Large | 695 | 311 | 542 | 507 |
| Long | 515 | 311 | 408 | 621 |
| Reddish | 676 | 311 | 474 | 627 |
| Large | 466 | 311 | 612 | 533 |
| Long | 486 | 311 | 408 | 621 |
| Reddish | 730 | 182 | 495 | 587 |
Range for Sudachi ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-676
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-394-542
- Length (Flat)-621
Summerbell
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 440 | 182 | 483 | 756 |
| Large | 486 | 35 | 408 | 841 |
| Reddish | 701 | 182 | 394 | 841 |
Range for Summerbell ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-701
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-408
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Tangelo
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reddish | 486 | 182 | 698 | 704 |
| Small | 279 | 182 | 698 | 756 |
Range for Tangelo ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-486
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size 698-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Tangerine
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Example | color | sweet | size | length |
Range for Tangelo ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-(Large)
- Length (Flat)-(Long)
Yuzu
| Label | Color | Sweet | Size | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Large | 486 | 182 | 612 | 441 |
| Long | 287 | 182 | 408 | 441 |
Range for Yuzu ideal values:
- Color (Greenish)-(Reddish)
- Sweet (Tangy)-(Sweet)
- Size (Small)-612
- Length (Flat)-441