Chat with a former player who understood this stuff

Peacefulness: Thanks for working so hard to document genetics things! I found a lot of good info on the T7 wiki. Hyksos has opened Mutagenics, and cate and I are learning as we go! I started asking myself, "What do we do once we create a mutagen?" Answer: "We figure out what it does." The information that has "survived" and been transferred to the T9 wiki isn't helpful!

Ariella: I would have been working way before the point of mutagens our secret to figuring out where each mutagen hit was, was to have bred down the shortest vine and flax seed to 4 genes
then we harvested lots of that 4 gene vine and made a bunch of seeds of the 4 gene flax because then you can use the cheapest solvent to look at each mutagen hit
I preferred a 3 gene vine and flax but 4 gene is fine too

it had also meant gathering loads of the shroom needed to make the cheap solvent
by doing that you know which 25% (4 gene) of where the mutagen hits or 33% (3 gene)
then you can choose an appropriate vine or flax strain or lily that will possibly show the change easily if it hits such and such gene
then you have the mutagen hit narrowed even further.
the longer the genome, the more pinpointed the mutagen hit range.
until finally you get that range so narrow that you know exactly which gene it would hit no matter which breedable you're using

Peacefulness: yes, Rania mentioned something about using vines.
I realized some advantages that vines have, particularly the ease of reproduction. Plant it and get a copy every 2 hours. So, use the shortest genome you have because a solvent will tell you the exact genetics of the child.

Then, you look at the genetics of your next test subjects and figure out which swap will give results you can see. Part of my challenge will be the learning curve. This tale is the first one I have worked with genetics at all. I've learned with shortcuts to "practical results", like Lazybum's phenome finder spreadsheet, and Ashen's crossbreeding tool. Good for getting success when you don't know the "ins and outs" of the process yet, but hampers learning a little when you don't have to learn some of the stuff! I've read about revelation solvents, but have yet to make/use one and learn to read their output. I really appreciate your additional advice on how to do this! I know you can't tell me about the code, but you can (and have) given advice on the how-to

Ariella: vines because it's easily reproducible, but you need to breed it down to 3 or 4 genes
so you have to know what changes in your xbreeds mean by looking at the new beginning vine stats

Or get molecular balance. that's the best. that's why we had Teppy make that tech because you know immediately if you lost a gene, just not where

I've wanted to do an Expert crossbreeding guide that explains how to breed down, why and molecular balance to breed down, you go and rename a bunch of the same breedable that you want to breed down with.
the key is that you rename half of that breedable you choose

so you can put the EXACT same breedable in both grafts
that way you know EXACTLY the genome you are working with because it's the same when you put it in
then breed down the shortest genome of each flower to only about 8 genes or so

have maybe 20 mutagens and you can make insta gene bulbs
you take your 7 or 8 gene lily, use the needed mutagens and make LilyI 7 gene have ALL I genes
then LilyR 7 gene have ALL R genes, etc.

then you multiply those and you don't have to go searching for a lily type that has the opposite mutagen hit that you need

lol it's so awesome!
but a ton of work
but if a group did it....
not so bad

then you can deliberately mutagen build what you want...given that you have enough mutagen hits where you need them
I think I'll work on the Expert Crossbreeding Guide too off and on
but it's awesome fun and sooooo satisfying visually

Peacefulness: and that is exactly what the complex stuff needs. A bit of an in-game guide to walk us through learning, give little successful things, ease us along with a little spoonfeeding. As awesome as the wiki is, its not always digestible. I loved your comment about "Do not look too long at this page to avoid brain melt."