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Basics

Vegetables refer to the various edible plants which can be grown and harvested from seeds.

Egypt has access to four standard vegetables through the Farming technology: Carrots, Garlic, Leeks, and Onions. These seeds are available to paid accounts from the various Universities of Worship under your faction's control once the technology is open and learned. When you request vegetables from the University, you will be given a total of 6 seeds from 2 strains of the same vegetable. The mix could be 1/5, 2/4 or 3/3. Those different strains have different qualities that can then be improved through Crossbreeding. Each University will give each player only one set of six seeds; the type of vegetable given is random.

Other vegetables such as Cabbage, Peppers, Cucumbers, Watermelon, and Eggplant may be received from other sources, such as Events, Tasks, or other means.

Cultivation

NOTE: You will probably want to go to "Options" / "One-click and related" and check "Plant all crops where you stand" so you can plant seeds faster.

All vegetables can be grown in the same way.

To plant vegetables you need to first learn the Farming skill from a University of Worship
Make sure you stand in decent-sized area of the correct terrain type for the vegetable you wish to grow (Grass, Sand or Dirt).
Click yourself or press the Escape key to bring your self-menu, and select the "Plant..." menu for a list of the seed types you carry. Continue navigating to the desired seed and pin its window for easier planting.
Planting the seeds will create a small bed of the vegetable on the ground that will start drying up,
Water the plant and wait for the next cycle of growth.
If the plant had the required amount of water, it will grow. Repeat 3~4 till you can harvest the vegetable.
Harvesting will net you a certain quantity of the vegetable along with your seed back.

Failing to water the plant correctly will make it shrink, or turn back into its seed that will drop on the ground if it was at its smallest stage. You will also get a message in Main stating that you did not tend your plant correctly.

Notes

For the starter seeds, different strains require different amounts of water, but all take 3 successful rounds of watering to obtain a harvest.
You can plant a vegetable on unsuitable land, it will grow as normal and can be harvested but will give zero vegetable yield. Be sure you are on the correct terrain beforehand.
Different factors can affect the yield of the harvest.
- Ecological factors can lower it to the point of getting no harvest,
- Local Support and Aqueduct Tower can raise or even multiply it.

Ecology

Growing vegetables requires suitable ecology, and growing vegetables can also affect the location ecology. In past tales it has been observed that ground water levels are depleted. Other factors may also be affected as well. Ecology can change enough that vegetables will no longer grow in the area, and moving to another area is required to grow and allow the ecology time to recover.

Genetics

The genetics for the "starter" vegetables have been discovered through solvents, but little is known about how the gene sequences yield differing results. Feel free to start your studying at: https://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale7/Genomes/Vegetables

Seed reproduction

If certain conditions are met, you may get extra seed(s) from your harvest.

This is extremely important and should you witness it, it should be documented as best as possible so seed reproduction methods can be isolated. Please note details of successful seed reproduction on the individual vegetable pages.

In T9, it appears that many vegetable seeds (cabbages, carrots, garlic, onions, and likely leeks) are reproduced in the vicinity of carrion mushrooms. There however appears to be a time and location factor that is not completely understood yet.

Uses

Most vegetables can be grilled in a Firepit to obtain their grilled counterpart, which can be consumed for a temporary statistics boost.
They are also used in a Kitchen for Cooking
Please refer to the following individual vegetable pages for comprehensive information.most have other uses as well.

ByProducts

Depending on your Arthropodology skill level, harvesting Vegetables can sometimes produce Insects.

Index of known vegetables

Cabbage

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Seed Reproduction Range	Grown On
Mut's Fruiton	3	1	1	5.0340 pH	Grass
Bastet's Yielding	3	2	2	5.0340 pH	Grass
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	5.0500 pH	Grass
Qwu#331	1	1	4	5.0340 pH	Grass
Qwus Kraut	1	1	9	5.0340 pH	Grass

Strain	Growth Stage	pH	Ground Water	Soot	Salinity
Mut's Fruiton	Mature			-
	Harvest	+ acid - pH	---
	Death			+
Bastet's Yielding	Mature			-
	Harvest	+ acid - pH	---
	Death			++
Isis' Bounty	Mature			-
	Harvest	+ acid - pH	---
	Death			+++
Qwu#331	Mature			-
	Harvest		---		+
	Death			+
Qwus Kraut	Mature			-
	Harvest		---		+
	Death			+

Carrots

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Seed Reproduction Range	Grown On
Osiris' Orange	3	1	1	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass
Green Leaf	3	2	2	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass
kirie#5	1	2	2	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass
kirie#124	1	1	4	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass & Clay
Qwus Baby Carrot	1	1	7	40.081 Nitrogen	Grass

Strain	Growth Stage	Ground Water	Phosphorus	Nitrogen
Osiris' Orange	Mature			-- (0.382)
	Harvest	---	+
	Death			++ (1.147)
Green Leaf	Mature			-- (0.765)
	Harvest	---	+
	Death			++++ (2.294)
Qwus Baby Carrot	Mature			--
	Harvest	---	++
	Death			++++

Cucumbers

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Grown On
Ma'at's Plow	3	1	1	Grass
Wadget's Garden	3	2	6	Grass
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	Grass,Dirt & Sand

Strain	Growth Stage	Heavy Metal	Ground Water	Phosphorus	Potassium
Ma'at's Plow	Mature		-	-
	Harvest	+	---		+
	Death		+	+
Wadget's Garden	Mature		-	-
	Harvest	+	---		+
	Death		+	+
Isis' Bounty	Mature		-	-
	Harvest	+	---		+
	Death		+	+

Garlic

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Seed Reproduction Range	Grown On
Heket's Reaping	3	1	1	4.3786 pH	Sand
Apep's Crop	3	2	2	4.3786 pH	Sand
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	4.3786 pH	Grass & Sand
Qwus Nubia Red Garlic	2	1	8	4.3786 pH	Grass & Sand

Strain	Growth Stage	pH	Ground Water	Potassium
Heket's Reaping	Mature	- acid + pH
	Harvest		---	+
	Death	+ acid - pH
Apep's Crop	Mature	- acid + pH
	Harvest		---	+
	Death	++ acid - - pH
Isis' Bounty	Mature	- acid ++ pH
	Harvest		---	+
	Death	+++ acid - - - pH
Qwus Nubia Red Garlic	Mature	+
	Harvest		---	+
	Death	--

Leeks

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Seed Reproduction Range	Grown On
Hapi's Harvest	3	1	1	40.081 Phosphorus	Sand
Horus' Grain	3	3	2	40.081 Phosphorus	Sand
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	40.189 Phosphorus	Sand & Clay

Strain	Growth Stage	Ground Water	Phosphorus	Soot
Hapi's Harvest	Mature		-
	Harvest	---		+
	Death		+
Horus' Grain	Mature		-
	Harvest	---		+
	Death		+
Isis' Bounty	Mature		-
	Harvest	---		++
	Death		++

Onions

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Seed Reproduction Range	Grown On
Amun's Bounty	3	1	1	40.081 Potassium	Sand
Tears of Sinai	3	2	2	40.081 Potassium	Sand
Isis Bounty	4	3	4	40.160 Potassium	Sand & Dirt
kirie#132	1	2	2	???	Sand
kirie#143	1	2	3	???	Sand
kirie's Sheeple supper	1	1	4	???	Sand
Qwus BBQ Onions	1	2	9	40.012 Potassium	Sand

Strain	Growth Stage	Ground Water	Potassium	Nitrogen
Amun's Bounty	Mature		-
	Harvest	---		+
	Death		++
Tears of Sinai	Mature		-
	Harvest	---		+
	Death		++
Isis' Bounty	Mature		--
	Harvest	---		++
	Death		++++
Qwus BBQ Onions	Mature		--
	Harvest	---		++
	Death		++++++

Peppers

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Grown On
Ra's Fire	3	1	1	Dirt
Ptah's Breed	3	2	2	Dirt
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	Dirt & Sand
Qwu#450	1	1	10	Dirt
Qwu#499	1	1	8	Dirt & Sand
Qwu#496	1	1	11	Dirt

Strain	Growth Stage	Heavy Metal	Ground Water	Phosphorus	Soot
Ra's Fire	Mature	-			-
	Harvest		+	+
	Death	+			+
Ptah's Breed	Mature	-			-
	Harvest		+	+
	Death	+			+
Isis' Bounty	Mature	-			-
	Harvest		+	+
	Death	++			++

Watermelon

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Grown On
Geb's Produce	3	1	1	Grass
Set's Vintage	3	2	2	Grass
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	Grass & Sand

Strain	Growth Stage	Heavy Metal	Ground Water	Soot	Nitrogen	Salinity
Geb's Produce	Mature				-	-
	Harvest	+	---	+
	Death				+	+
Set's Vintage	Mature				-	-
	Harvest	+	---	+
	Death				+	+
Isis' Bounty	Mature				-	-
	Harvest	+	---	+
	Death				+	+

Eggplant

Strain	Growth Stages	Waterings Per Stage	Base Yield	Grown On
Isis Seed	3	1	1	Sand
Stranger's Solana	4	2	2	Sand
Qetesh's Soil	3	2	2	Sand & Dirt
Isis' Bounty	4	3	4	Sand
MacPhisto#480	1	2	4	Sand
MacPhisto#499	2	1	5	Sand
MacPhisto#508	1	1	5	Sand

Strain	Growth Stage	Ground Water
Isis Seed	Mature
	Harvest	---
	Death
Stranger's Solana	Mature
	Harvest
	Death
Qetesh's Soil	Mature
	Harvest	---
	Death
Isis' Bounty	Mature
	Harvest	---
	Death

T9 Seed Reproduction

A wide variety of methods have been required to reproduce seeds in past tales. Some of these are listed below. Currently seed reproduction is expected to be largely ecology based.

Tale 9

The information listed is not from my own research but from that of our fellow, devoted Egyptians who keep us all fed. ~Harvest

Eggplant

Can be reproduced near all mushrooms except the ones that like pollution.

Cabbage, Carrots and Garlic

Works in Bernike, north of the Acro Field, near Carrion Mushrooms at the same time as the Carrion Spawn time.

Carrots

Reproduced in Asyut close to multiple ranches with cattle in them.

Leeks

Blemmys around 2500, -5250 near Carrion Mushrooms.
Reproduces near sulphur, same as peppers.
Reproduce at 3000, -6000 in Kush region. No shrooms or sulfur.

Pepper

Near Sulphur. Specifically, near an invisible Sulfur Generator object. As we do not know where these are, narrow ponds where you can't help but be near any object embedded in the lake will be the most ideal for pepper reproduction. Different varieties have different nearness requirements - Ra's must be nearest, while Isis can be fairly far and still work.

Cucumbers

Near Papyrus. Specifically, near an invisible Papyrus Generator object. As we do not know where these are, narrow papyrus-growing ponds where you can't help but be near any object embedded in the lake will be the most ideal for Cucumber reproduction. Different varieties have different nearness requirements - Ma'at's Plow must be nearest, while Isis Bounty can be fairly far and still work.
Isis Bounty seed can also be generated in Giza @ 1055, 6381 (just near a small lake). Yield of fruit was 7 and seed 3 (CinAmm)

additional comments from that conversation:
- "interesting that the 'easiest' to reproduce is also the most desirable, in the long run. People want the seed that gives the largest yield"
- Reply: "keep thinking that and you really will not get far :P there is a reason the other seeds are harder"

Watermelon

Successfully reproduced next to Nile Fire mushroom in Philae. - Kaffikopp
Successfully reproduced at KO -1323, 4388, no shrooms present. - Bastia

Onions and Cabbage have been successfully reproduced at 3200, 4500 near Carrions by Qwu.

Onions and Carrots have been successfully reproduced at 750, 2800 near Carrions by Qwu.

Onions and Garlic have been successfully reproduced at 1394, 6560 by TanaraKuranov. Did not seem to be any mushrooms nearby.

Isis Pepper have been successfully reproduced at BO -2987, 6187 by Qwu.

chart has reproduced Cucumber seeds on the Nile at the border of Thebes and Swenett at 9:54 pm (game time). Qwu unable to be reproduced during the day without papy growing and with papy growing. Rumor says it grows near a crop that resembles paper. More research is needed.

Past Tale Seed Reproduction

Tale 8

Tale 8 seed reproduction was driven primarily by ecological, time-of-day, and location factors.

Tale 7

Most vegetables appeared to seed in waves that pass through Egypt in the -X direction.

Tale 6

Onions could reproduce seeds if you harvested wood from one of your "special" trees (randomly assigned to each avatar). Other trees, while they didn't change the seed production, would halve your onion harvest.

Tale 5

Onions: Long grow cycle
Carrots: When your last workload was 1000+
Leeks: After catching "your" fish.
Cabbage: Two people that have passed Mentorship. One seed per pair.
Garlic: With a 1+ weed ex-spouse
Peppers: After just harvesting Onions,Cabbage,Leeks,Garlic,Carrots in "your" order.
Cuccumbers: On a small island
Eggplant: Near 3 Newbies (level 0–1)
Watermelons: After picking up a wild beetle

Tale 4

Onions Planted when you're tired
Leeks After a successful dowse (but not after an unsuccessful one) -- Code for this did not work
Garlic An hour+ after eating a meal with a correct-for-you herb base—Code for this did not work
Cabbage Near 2 wild-growing herbs
Carrots When you're not carrying anything—Impossible to achieve (you must carry at least jugs to water)
Pepper After perfect gold mining—RNG for this probably never appeared ((81/4)^12) = 4.7 trillion to one!)
Watermelon When you're drunk
Cucumber Near a lit hookah
Eggplant In a wheat field with other people—Possibly did not work

Tale 3

Onions Alone with Spouse
Garlic On your day of the month
Cabbage On your region's day
Leeks After eating a Masterpiece
Carrots When smelling proper incense
Pepper
Watermelon In today's spot
Cucumber Near a rare flower (young?)
Eggplant Near a Pyramid of Fertile Land

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 In T9, it appears that many vegetable seeds (cabbages, carrots, garlic, onions, and likely leeks) are reproduced in the vicinity of carrion mushrooms. There however appears to be a time and location factor that is not completely understood yet.
-**My experiences in seed reproduction:  Although seeds reproduce next to carrion mushrooms, it is not all carrion mushrooms.  There is more to it, I am guessing ecology, but I don't really know.  What I have found is that I can fail at getting additional seeds standing next to 1 carrion mushroom, but succeed when growing next to a different one 5 coordinates away.  So if you fail, try another mushroom.  Sometimes I get extra seeds on 1 of 4 plants, and zero on the next planting.  Sometimes I get extra seeds on all 4 plants for multiple plantings.  When I stop getting seeds, I look for another mushroom.  I myself, have successfully reproduced eggplant, cabbage, leeks and watermelons next to carrion mushrooms using this method.  However, I have also found times where I could not get eggplants to reproduce at all, but I was able to get leeks to reproduce on the same mushroom.  So I recommend bringing all seeds that you might want, and rotate through them all to see if any work.	-Orchid
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-[[image:Cabbage_Repro.png|thumb|Cabbages reproduced seeds]]
-**tehm - I have reproduced Leek seeds in EK near the UWor.  No luck with other seeds (Cabbage, Carrots, Onions) near there.  I have produced Cabbage seeds in Blemmyes NW of UNat Phi (see image attached), did not try other seeds.  You likely want to be very close to them, but if you get a Land Not Suitable message, try moving a few steps away.  In the image below, all of the planted cabbages produced Cabbage + 4 Seeds (there is another Carrion mushroom off to the right, but no others in sight).
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